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The purpose of this Number Talk is to elicit the strategies and understandings students have for subtracting multi-digit numbers. These understandings help students develop fluency and will be helpful later in a subsequent lesson when students use strategies flexibly to subtract within 1,000.
Find the value of each expression mentally.
The purpose of this activity is for students to consider two subtraction algorithms. In Algorithm A, students first look for any place-value units they need to decompose to get more units, and then they subtract from right to left. In Algorithm B, subtraction also occurs from right to left, but units are decomposed as the need arises. Students try each algorithm and consider potential advantages and disadvantages of each algorithm.
In the Activity Synthesis, students carefully analyze and discuss the two algorithms, explaining the motivation behind them, how they are the same, and how they are different (MP3, MP6).
The first steps of 2 algorithms are shown.
Algorithm A, Step 1
Algorithm B, Step 1
How are the steps different?
The purpose of this activity is for students to make sense of an algorithm in which a number with non-zero digits is subtracted from a number with a zero in the tens place. In the given problem, it is necessary to decompose a greater unit to have enough ones to subtract. There are no tens to decompose, but prompt students to consider whether subtraction is possible, and if so, how it could be done.
When students make sense of Elena’s reasoning, they construct viable arguments and critique the reasoning of others (MP3).
Noah wanted to find the value of and wrote:
Elena said that we can’t subtract this way because we would need more ones to subtract 7 ones, but there’s a zero in the tens place of 301.